I’d said in an earlier post that 1.6% of the North American population are philosophically illiterate. (http://thesauros-store.blogspot.com/2010/04/16-solution_12.html) This was demonstrated again in my last go-round with them.
There is a sub-group of this 1.6% who say, out of complete and total ignorance, that the universe came into being ex nihilo - out of literally nothing. These people have absolutely no clue as to what they’re admitting. They just blissfully repeat,
Matter didn’t exist > Matter did exist > Matter caused it to happen. It's magic!
Or they just say that what they mean by matter not existing is that at one time in the past matter was really, really, really small. In the minds of these Brights, that’s the same as “nothing.”
Another sub-group of this 1.6% say that matter / energy have existed forever and ever and ever, back and back on into eternity. These people are describing not only a material infinite, they’re describing an infinite regress of cause. They fundamentally believe in both.
Here’s the curious thing about this last group. These people will never admit that they are philosophically committed to the material infinite. They twist and turn and perform all kinds of mental and linguistic contortions to avoid saying they believe that matter is eternal. But that is exactly what they’re saying.
What’s the problem?
We know from both science and philosophy that matter cannot be past eternal.
We know from both science and philosophy that there cannot be an infinite regress of cause.
This group of atheists believe either that
(a) matter / energy has lain dormant from the eternal past until roughly 14 billion years ago when it exploded for no known reason (It's magic!) into what we now call the universe, or
(b) matter / energy have exchanged forms to this universe from the previous universe from the previous universe, from the previous universe etc. etc. on into the eternal past.
We know and they know that this is impossible.
Yet they continue to cling to this belief. Every one of their Origin Of The Universe Mythologies are nothing but an attempt to avoid singular creation ex nihilo.
Atheists will tell you, on the one hand, that they don’t like imaginary things. On the other hand they hold to the profoundly imaginary eternal material past and the imaginary infinite regress of cause.
The people in this population must, at all cost maintain their implausible position or their faith system will come crashing down.