“Why, I Don’t Know What You’re Talking About”

Hugo, like many if not most atheists, repeatedly asks for evidence that Creator God exists. Or atheists throw out the challenge, “Prove to me that your God exists,” or “If there was any evidence for the existence of your God, I’d believe in a heartbeat.”

Because that’s a flat out lie, I asked Hugo, “What evidence could I give you that would be acceptable to you for the existence of Creator God?”

He pretended that it was an impossible question to answer because he had no idea, he said, which god I was talking about, and besides, he said, any answer he gave would depend on who he was talking to. When I explained that since he was talking to me, a blogger he’s been talking to for at least two years, he should be able to guess that we’d be talking about Creator God of the Christian faith. Hugo then said he wouldn’t be able to answer the question because, “I would not be able to list the attributes of the God you personally believe in.”

Mm hmm. This from someone who said he was raised Roman Catholic.

Hugo also said he doesn’t know how I understand / describe / define the Singularity. Let me get that out of the road first - The universe did not begin, as Hugo suggests, from an “infinite density” of matter / energy, i.e. - a black hole. Since space itself did not exist until God brought the universe into being (Hugo says he doesn't know what "until" means), there was no place for the black hole to exist. As well, until God brought it into existence, there was nothing re: matter / energy, which could have preceded / formed the black hole. There was nothing upon which gravity could act, nor did the gravitational constant exist.

The universe was purposely brought into existence from literally nothing by an immaterial “Creator” that existed outside of and “prior to” (Hugo says he doesn’t know what that means either) space / time / matter / energy and the laws of physics that govern how matter / energy interact. The Singularity is the word that we use to describe this creation event, or expansion as some like to call it. Expansion, in this context, is somewhat of an understatement. At Planck Time every constant and quantity needed to govern our universe was in place. All the matter and energy required was brought into being at the Singularity. Space and Time began at the Singularity.

The type of Creator who purposely brought the material universe into being can be described by the following. Some of the characteristics can be discerned from what the Cause of a material universe must be like. Other characteristics have been given to us by the Creator Himself and by those who experience an intimate, healed and forgiven relationship with Him. Even Richard Dawkins has given us a list of descriptors of Creator God. These need to be taken with a grain of salt since his view of Creator God is similar to that of a career criminal describing a Peace Officer or a Judge and is not, in my opinion, accurate. So for Hugo’s benefit, these are the attributes or characteristics of the God for which he so sincerely wants evidence.

Eternal - Existed before time began and now exists in time but outside of time constraints

Necessary - Creator God had to exist or there would be nothing material in existence. Matter / energy / universe is not Necessary. There is no need for any universe to exist let alone a life-sustaining universe. Either matter is eternal - which you and I both know is impossible OR an immaterial / spiritual Cause of matter is eternal.

All Powerful - Creator of space, time, matter and the laws of science,

All Knowing - Created the constants and qualities by which our mathematically precise universe functions,

Omnipresent - Not limited by space or time,

Timeless and changeless - Not limited by time

Spirit - He exists outside of and prior to the creation of matter

Personal - The impersonal cannot create personality

Purposeful - He deliberately created the universe

Intelligent - Only intelligence can create intelligence

Caring - What He asks of us is for our benefit

Moral - His character makes possible objective morality by which we live

Merciful - At His own expense He made possible the forgiveness of our sins,

Slow to Anger - He has put up with us from the beginning of human kind,

Mind / Logos,

A friend to the poor,

Full of Grace,

Compassionate,

Patient - continues to bless those who hate Him,

Triune: Father, Son and Spirit,

Uncaused,

All-good,

Infinite,

Unique,

Lord of lords,

King of kings,

Creator,

Sustainer of the universe.

Independent of His creation,

Perfectly Holy,

Love,

Truth,

Righteous,

Sovereign,

Self-existent,

Elohim - The strong One, mighty Leader, supreme Deity.

Yahweh - Self-existent, Changeless, Provider, Present,

Adonai - Majestic, Master, Owner.

True God,

Transcendent,

Saviour,

Supreme Lord.

Perfectly Just

Perfect Love

Now, I think it was you Hugo who said that God must not have aspects of His character that are contradictory. You’re correct. God cannot contradict His own character. Some atheist will immediately say, “Oh really! Are there other things that God can’t do? I thought He was all powerful.”

Short of these kind of atheist absurdities, there are no contradictory attributes for Creator God. Nevertheless, atheists try and try and try ad nauseam.

Atheists ask, “Could God create a rock so heavy that He couldn’t lift it?” and they believe - they REALLY BELIEVE - that makes them sound clever. It’s kind of like when they ask, “Oh ya? Well when did eternal God begin to exist? Huh? Huh? Who created this eternal God of yours? Huh?” Again, these type of questions are asked with an air of, “I’m a Bright and you’re not!”

In their ignorance of all things theological, atheists have assumed that if God exists, and if He’s Omnipotent then He can do anything. Sorry, no. The Omnipotence of God does not imply that He can do anything.

The Omnipotence of God DOES mean that He can do anything that can be done.

Apart from the fact that God created the entire physical Universe out of nothing, even though He is Immaterial / Spirit and transcendent to the Universe, the questions that atheists ask in this regard are conceptual absurdities. Other examples of this type of question are,

“Can God create a round square?” Or,
“Can God create a four-sided triangle?”

No, He can’t - but not because He's isn't Omnipotent.
The reason that God cannot do these things is because,

“These kinds of things cannot be done - PERIOD!”

God IS infinite in power, but power only relates to what can be done, NOT to what is impossible! It is absurd to say that any power, even infinite power should be able to do what can’t be done. It should not surprise us when atheists ask these kind of questions because these kind of people adhere to a belief system that is itself absurd, illogical and incoherent.

While God can do whatever is possible to be done, in reality, He will do only what does not contradict His character.

What I meant when I said that God cannot contradict His own character is:
A Being who IS Love and who IS Just cannot act in a non loving or unjust manner.

A Being who is the epitome of honesty cannot lie.

God who is the very definition of Love, cannot create beings with the ability to express this type of real love without also giving them the freewill choice to NOT love. For real love comes from a conscious decision.

Atheists say this shows that God is not all powerful. They are, once again, wrong. With only a small amount of consideration, the average person can see that:

. There are many things that are possible, that you and I cannot do.
. There aren’t ANY things that are possible, that God CAN’T do.


That’s what being Omnipotent means.


Atheists will probably NEVER be able to grasp that concept.

They get insulted when I say that it’s because they’re dull of mind and slow of thought but what other reason is there? I suppose philosophically bigoted would fit.

The fact is, to say that God is lacking in power just because He cannot make a 90-year-old teenager is to imply that He COULD do so if He simply had more power.

Again, absurd.

Making a house that is larger on the inside than it is on the outside, or making an animal that is at the same time both white all over and black all over - to propose such things is to support logical contradictions and absurdities. Since these kinds of questions come from people who adhere to a belief system that is itself illogical, incoherent and absurd, this should not surprise.

Just as atheists hold conferences where they actually debate which holds the greater truth:
“We don’t believe in God” or
“We’re non believers in God,”
these people sit around imagining logical absurdities that cannot be accomplished AND THEN, based on the conclusion they reach, atheists say that God does not possess infinite power or that God does not exist.

Omnipotence does not mean that there are no limits to what an omnipotent Being can do. There are several things that God cannot do, the most important of which affects atheists in a dramatic eternal manner.
God cannot be tempted by evil.
God cannot show partiality or favouritism
God cannot allow into heaven the individual who will not repent of h/ her sin.

. It is profoundly important to understand that you may live in such a manner that even Creator God cannot save your soul.

. It is profoundly important that you not put yourself in a position from which even Creator God cannot rescue you.

There are some things even God can’t change
Heaven or Hell - The Choice Is Yours To Make

“I take no delight in the death of the wicked. So turn from your sin and live.”

While I’m sure there are more descriptions than this, it’s time to ask, What do atheists mean when they say we can’t describe the God in which we believe? What do atheists mean when they ask, "Well which god(s) are we talking about when you say god created the universe?"?

The fact is, out of all the religions of the world, this God, the Christian God, the God that was just described best describes the Creator of the Universe - The universe itself being the largest and most obvious piece of evidence we have for the existence of a Creator.

Creator God IS the Greatest Conceivable Being.

Of course Hugo and any other atheist will just come up with a different kind of excuse. Not one of them has the integrity to say to us and to themselves, “I don’t care what evidence there is for a Creator God. I’m committed to atheism and that’s all there is to it.”

So Hugo, since you are always telling me to provide evidence for the existence of the God that I believe in, what evidence could I give you that would be acceptable to you for the existence of Creator God?