In an earlier post, I’d mentioned that there were 100's of finely tuned constants and quantities required for the existence of our universe and for intelligent life itself. Because the vast majority of atheists are very poorly read regarding any science but certainly the science of origins I thought I might get some push-back on just how many constants and quantities that severely constrain the actions of matter and energy within our universe.
It didn’t seem to register. Like pushing their way through a huge snow drift the mind of atheists is barely able to comprehend what this all means, if at all.
Anyhow, here is what we know.
In 1988 we knew of 15 finely tuned cosmic features that were required for the universe to exist. Today, scientists have discovered 676 constants and quantities that are required to be exactly as is for permanent simple life to exist.
There are 402 finely tuned characteristics of the planetary system that must be in place, specifically for permanent intelligent life.
For various other life forms to exist there are 824 features of our universe and galaxy that must fall within exquisitely narrow ranges.
These are explained in detail at http://www.reasons.org/links/hugh/research-notes
As I said, for those with the wisdom to understand what's being said, a jaw-slacking amazement and sense of wonder will set in.
Atheists on the other hand will read this with the look of a cow watching a train go by.
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'. . . imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!'
ReplyDeleteDouglas Addams
But then I'd have to ask the question, what if it was made that way?
ReplyDeleteThe great thing about these silly replies is that they're just as easily twisted the other way. The writer thinks he's so clever because it implies his solution, but leaves out enough that he doesn't prove anything.
A puddle can exist both naturally as well as it can be because someone built somewhere for the puddle to be stored. Or it could be the result of a wear in a road that was made.
The point of this post, so far as I can see it, is that there are many different constants that have to be correct in order to support life. That they all are could be the fact that life came based on constants that were already existing, but it could have occurred because Someone made it that way.
The question that I have for those that believe it's the latter is this: what caused those constants? Were they always there, were they created somehow? And what before that?
And all of these severe constraints were "IN PLACE" at the Singularity. They didn't evolve or settle in over billions of years.
ReplyDeleteAs I said in the previous post -
When simultaneous “coincidence” multiply, the “random accident” interpretation grows less and less plausible and reaches a point at which it must simply be abandoned.
The Universe may have been designed by an alien or by aliens. This would solve the problem of how a designer or design team capable of fine-tuning the Universe could come to exist. Cosmologist Alan Guth believes humans will in time be able to generate new universes. By implication previous intelligent entities may have generated our universe.
ReplyDeleteI am hesitant to respond to the person who goes by the pen-name "Jesus was an alien" I am truly not sure whether he is a theist attempting to parody yet another ridiculous atheist argument... OR... he might be seriously posing yet another ridiculous alien argument.
ReplyDeleteThe depths of absurdity to which atheists will descend in order to avoid the obvious makes it increasingly difficult to write parody these days, and even more difficult to distinguish it from the nonsense that is put forth with a straight face.
I can sum up Rod's argument:
ReplyDeleteI don't understand how the universe could have come about - therefore the god I believe in created it.
If this was some great evidence, don't you think the people actually working in the field would overwhelmingly be theists?
Instead the only seven percent are believers.
"Jesus was an alien" copied his text from the fine wiki article.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe
Caught out.
And Adams has only one 'd', Mr First Commenter.
And Mr 'The Maryland Crustacean', Poe's Law.
Disbelief in God and immortality among NAS biological scientists was 65.2% and 69.0%, respectively, and among NAS physical scientists it was 79.0% and 76.3%. Most of the rest were agnostics on both issues, with few believers. We found the highest percentage of belief among NAS mathematicians (14.3% in God, 15.0% in immortality). Biological scientists had the lowest rate of belief (5.5% in God, 7.1% in immortality), with physicists and astronomers slightly higher (7.5% in God, 7.5% in immortality).
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Slightly different numbers, 9999, but the point of still the same.