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Friday, July 2, 2010

“He Never Said That!”

That’s what some guy claimed regarding Jesus’ Divinity.

“Jesus never claimed that He was God.”

As one person has said, “To read the historical accounts of Jesus and not recognise His claims to being God, one must be as blind as a man outside on a clear day at high noon and say that he can’t see the sun.”

I say, “Maybe YOU can’t hear the claims of Jesus that He was God incarnate, but the religious leaders of the day certainly heard them.” Or perhaps you just don’t understand what those people meant when they accused Jesus of blasphemy.

Jesus’ trial was not about what He had done. It was about Who He claimed to be.

. “If you have seen Me, you have seen God.”

. “If you knew Me, you would know My Father, the One who sent Me”

. “He who hates Me, hates My Father also”

. “I and the Father are one.”

It’s significant that Jesus, neither in these verses nor during the cleansing the Temple used the term “our” Father. Instead He said, “MY Father.” "My Father's house." This was not lost on the religious leaders who saw the use of the term “MY Father” as equating Himself with God.


Besides His many other claims to being God, Jesus received worship from others and never corrected people for having done so. Sometimes He even demanded worship (John 5:23). When Peter and Martha and others said to Jesus, “You are the Christ, the living God,” Jesus did not correct them. In fact, the number of times that Jesus compared Himself with or likened Himself to God are so many, to list them all would render even my typically long posts too long. Therefore I’ll only touch on what His enemies said about Him.

Why His enemies? In a court of Law, no corroborative evidence is more convincing to open minded listeners than that of a hostile witnesses. The fact that Jesus laid claim to Divinity / Deity is incontestably established by the action of His enemies.

1) Mark 2 and Luke 7 - This is the account of Jesus healing and forgiving the sins of the crippled man. Rather than immediately healing the man who had been placed in front of Him Jesus first said to the man, “Son, you sins are forgiven.”

The Priests who were present asked, “Why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming; who can forgive sins but God alone?” Jesus asked them, “Which is easier to say, “You’re healed,” or “You’re sins are forgiven.” To show them that He was God and that He had power on earth to forgive sins, Jesus said to the man, “Pick up your mat and go home and the man picked up His mat and walked out from among them.”

. The paralytic (as have all of us) had sinned against Creator God.
. Jesus said to the man, “Your sins are forgiven.”
. No one but God has the right to forgive sins committed against God.
. That is exactly what Jesus did.
. Jesus proved His authority to forgive the man’s sins by healing him. Even those people who atheists derisively call “primitive” knew that quadriplegics are not restored to health by a spoken word. Unlike today’s charlatan faith healers, Jesus’ healings were instantaneous, complete and permanent. Only a supernatural power can heal someone in that manner with a spoken word.
It was true then. It is true today.

2) Mark 14 - At the trial of Jesus - Jesus had stood silent before His accusers. The High Priest then forced Jesus, by placing Him under oath - to answer the accusations against Him.

“Are you the Christ, the son of the Blessed One?” the Priest demanded!

Jesus answered, “I Am. And you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

Jesus’ words were carefully chosen to ensure there was no doubt Who He was claiming to be. Again, the religious leaders had no problem bringing a charge of blasphemy against Jesus based on these comments. Jesus had just identified Himself as:

a) The Son of the Blessed One

b) The One who would sit at the right hand of power

c) The Son of man who would come on the clouds of heaven

To anyone in that religious culture, ALL of these are Messianic titles found in the prophetic writings of the Old Testament in regard to the coming of God to save Israel. The Sanhedrin caught every one of these three points. Unlike most trials, Jesus was NOT tried for some criminal action. He was put on trial for who He claimed to be - God incarnate.

Spiritually blind and deaf, atheists are simply unable to grasp the significance of what took place when God Incarnate pitched His tent among us.

For what it’s worth, it was no idle question that Jesus asked regarding which is easier, to give the paralytic physical health or spiritual healing. As Max Lucado puts it:

. One took a command; one His blood
. One took place in a house with friends close by; one naked and alone on a cross
. One took a moment in time; one took His life

For Creator God, the cost of Grace, the price of Forgiveness was huge.

Of course atheists say, “At worst, Jesus just had a bad weekend.”

That’s what atheists are like. It’s how they think.

5 comments:

  1. That post seemed to be a right track, talking about what you believe and why, but you had to bring atheists in the picture, why?

    Atheists simply do not believe in gods, and most of them do not believe in miracles, so what's the point?

    At worst, Jesus just had a bad weekend

    Personally, I would say that, IF Jesus were really the Son of an infinite God, then yes, he simply had a bad weekend since an infinity in Heaven is infinitely more important compared to a few hours of suffering. You know, divide the number of hours of suffering by the time spent in heaven (infinity) and you get... 0. So he did not suffer at all! Conceptually speaking of course.


    BUT, since I do not believe that, IF Jesus was really tortured and crucified the way we are told, then it's not 'just' a bad weekend, it is a fucking terrible way to die!!!

    i.e. You're sentence "That’s what atheists are like. It’s how they think." Is false once again.

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  2. I have the Jehovah's Witnesses coming over today. I was thinking that this was a good post to show them.
    They do not believe that Christians should believe Jesus was YAHWEH.

    Then the last few paragraphs... :-(

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  3. the price of Forgiveness was huge.. To "pay a price" requires a change in state. After giving money, your state went from "having money" to "having less money". If you suffer pain, your state goes from "not suffering" to "suffering". God being infinite creates a dilemma. An infinite agent or system cannot change state without compromising it's infinite condition. If we suggest that god's state went from 1 to 2, we put a measure on all possible states god can be in and consequentially create a "potential infinity", voiding an actual infinity. As I explained previously, to put a measure or parameters onto an infinite system negates the infinity.

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  4. "You're sentence "That’s what atheists are like. It’s how they think." Is false once again."

    I'm not going to go and search for it but in the comments to one of my posts, I'm pretty sure that it was you, Hugo, who said, "I like . . ." and you mentioned the name of the atheist who said, "At worst Jesus had a bad weekend." You liked that! And so did the other atheist posting here. Don't even get me started on your attitude toward my Saviour!

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  5. Yep I think it is pretty funny, IF Jesus is really a God... if he was not a god however, wow, what a terrible fate, nothing to laugh about...

    But even though it is meant to be a joke, why don't you address the core idea? If he really was God incarnated, what significance did the few hours of suffering had compared to an infinity life in Heaven?

    By the way... that sentence is pretty ironic:
    "Don't even get me started on your attitude toward my Saviour!" because, UNLIKE YOU, I do attack beliefs, and not the people. I only get to a point of attacking people when they have an attitude like yours... actually it's the first time I got to that point since I had never been associated with close-minded and a bigot before!

    Heck I even went back to a respectful tone right after since your post on evidence for the resurection was finally something not attacking atheists, so I thought the change of subject deserved a change of tone...

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